Clint, Obviously you nor I can win this argument. It's not like I didn't give these amps a try. I did, I got burnt, end of story. I have read horror story after horror story about people having the same problems. To me the risk is simply to great. I feel the money spent on the Woo buys me a top quality item, excellent support by the builder, and a piece that displays top craftsmanship. These Chinese amps just don't convey this to me. The Woo is a class act, and true this you will pay for. To me it's worth every dime. If your lucky enough to get a Chinese amp that is working correctly with no hum problems, No damage from shipping, and bought from someone who really supports it good for you. Consider yourself lucky. But, for those who's experience was less than ideal it will leave a very bad taste in your mouth. I have full confidence in this purchase, buying a chinese amp at this point would really concern me. That's the difference, and that's what I'm willing to pay for.