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| steamer |
Posted: July 14, 2006 09:30 am
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![]() 1928? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 272 Member No.: 28 Joined: July 08, 2006 |
I have an old Phillips tube radio and believe I need to bring it back to life slowly.Can I make something like a Variac for this purpose?
Greg -------------------- Got tubes?...scratch where it itches!
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| SPL db |
Posted: July 14, 2006 10:55 am
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![]() Vintage Audio Nut ![]() Group: Members Posts: 31 Member No.: 41 Joined: July 14, 2006 |
Here's a link to the poor man's variac... enjoy!
Poor Man's Variac There's others out there, but I found this one doing a Google search. Scott -------------------- If a man talks dirty to a woman, it's sexual harassment, if a woman talks dirty to a man, it's $3.99 a minute!
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| steamer |
Posted: July 14, 2006 12:45 pm
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![]() 1928? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 272 Member No.: 28 Joined: July 08, 2006 |
Thanks Scott.
Greg -------------------- Got tubes?...scratch where it itches!
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| Charivari |
Posted: July 14, 2006 12:50 pm
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I built and used one of those when bringing up my old Fisher gear. Works very well, is cheap and convenient. If you decide you no longer need it in the future, you'll have a batch of spare bulbs for use around the house.
- JP -------------------- After silence that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music.
"Ordinary people who listen to music on the radio all day long do not know that it is all a lie. It is all noise, the noise of money. I pity people who have grown up never having heard honest music." - Márta Sebestyén |
| steamer |
Posted: July 14, 2006 01:00 pm
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![]() 1928? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 272 Member No.: 28 Joined: July 08, 2006 |
I take it you just start out with a low watt bulb then progress on up to say 100 watter.How much time at each stage?
Greg -------------------- Got tubes?...scratch where it itches!
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| Charivari |
Posted: July 14, 2006 01:11 pm
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Hmm, it's been a while, but I believe I waited a couple of hours at each voltage step, but I used more wattage levels than recommended by that page. I did monitor the voltage with a multi-meter to track what each step ended up at as determined by the bulb voltage. Iirc, 100 watts was insufficient to near regular line voltage in as small a step as the others so I used an even larger bulb, such as, iirc, a 150 watter before the last step up to 120v.
- JP -------------------- After silence that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music.
"Ordinary people who listen to music on the radio all day long do not know that it is all a lie. It is all noise, the noise of money. I pity people who have grown up never having heard honest music." - Márta Sebestyén |
| steamer |
Posted: July 14, 2006 01:53 pm
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![]() 1928? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 272 Member No.: 28 Joined: July 08, 2006 |
Kool,
Thanks guys,got someplace to start now. Greg -------------------- Got tubes?...scratch where it itches!
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| HFG |
Posted: July 23, 2006 07:42 pm
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Why not just buy a varaic off ebay for $50 and do the job properly ??????????
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| crooner |
Posted: July 23, 2006 10:30 pm
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Here's another vote for the "poor man's variac". I've used it to restore countless of old radios and tube amps. Works like a charm. Don't waste your money on a variac!
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| crooner |
Posted: July 23, 2006 10:32 pm
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I second the Phil Nelson "poor man's variac" link. Very useful indeed!
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| itlldue |
Posted: July 24, 2006 08:01 am
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Would there be any advantage/disadvantage to using a dimmer type switch for further control?
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| hakka26 |
Posted: August 02, 2006 10:11 pm
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I think there is a problem in that audio equipment uses resistors. Same reason that a soldering iron station can't be used. BTW I was once corrected regarding Variac vs. Variable Transformer but if someone happens to come across a Variac I have a link to a site that shows how to build a Variable Transformer. Some knucklehead on e$ay sells it as a pdf. |
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| blue_lateral |
Posted: August 21, 2006 06:33 pm
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Not a bad idea, actually. The dim-bulb tester can still be useful, though even if you do have a variac. My B&K combination variac-isolationtransformer thing has the dim-bulb idea built in. there is an outlet on the back for the bulb, and a switch on the front panel for direct or dim-bulb. The dim-bulb is very useful for troubleshooting power supplies that have something shorted. When bringing something to life slowly, I find it useful to clip the multimeter accross the B+ supply of the device being brought back to life, like across one of the filter capacitors for example. Often the reason for doing a slow start is to "re-form" the capacitors. Opinions vary whether re-forming works. I think it cant hurt to avoid shocking the filter capacitors, so I bring them up slow. I mention this because the voltage across the filters does not really follow line voltage as you bring it up. An awful lot of the action is between 50-60 volts. By monitoring the B+ voltage, you can see what is really happening. YMMV John -------------------- People do follow people, so if you think you're being followed by someone and you're not, thats not being loopy, it's just being wrong---being loopy is if you think you're being followed by purple elephants, unless you are of course.
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| hakka26 |
Posted: August 22, 2006 05:35 pm
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Here is the link to to build your own. I'm sure you could cut out the bulb circuit if you wanted. I picked up a 5 amp transformer but haven't got around to build the autotransformer yet as I was later gifted one.
http://www.vacuum-tube-power-supply.com/ |
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