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| socal sam |
Posted: October 15, 2008 09:00 pm
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I run across NAD gear all the time and I admit, I can't resist trying them. I've owned at one time or another:
7600 Rec 7400 Rec 7175PE Rec 7150 Rec 7140 Rec 3150 Int 3155 Int 2155 amp 1155 Pre 2200PE Amp 4155 Tuner 4150 Tuner 5355 CDP ...and more I can't remember. Some of it is really good like the 2200PE and 3150. And some of it is really bad like the 7600 and 7400. |
| clint e. |
Posted: October 16, 2008 06:00 am
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I'm into Nad gear since the introduction of the classic amp 3020 in the 80's witch a still have in great shape. I also have - now heavily upgraded - the Nad cdp 5425.
A few years ago i bought the Nad C325 BEE amplifier, and the Nad cdp C521 BEE - also, heavily upgraded. I always liked Nad and Rotel gear. This post has been edited by clint e. on October 16, 2008 06:01 am -------------------- ![]() " Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be measured " Albert Einstein![]() |
| rroobbcc |
Posted: October 16, 2008 07:02 am
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I don't own any NAD gear, but would love to tryout a 218 THX or 208 Power Amp. I have heard and read some good reviews of them.
-------------------- Main 2-channel: Infinity RS 9 Kappa speakers (bi-amped), Adcom GFA-5802 (x2) power amps, Adcom GFP-750 preamp, Adcom GCD-750 CD player, Sony DTC-75ES DAT deck, Sony TC-K850ES cassette deck
Home Office: Infinity Modulus satellite speakers, Velodyne F-1200 subwoofer, Adcom GFA-555II power amp, PS Audio 5.6 preamp, Marantz DV6001 DVD/SACD player (as CD Transport), PS Audio Ultralink Two DAC Livingroom: B&W DM601 S3 speakers, Adcom GFA-545II power amp, Adcom GCD-575 CD player Home Theater: B&W LCR 6 S2 (x3) front and center speakers, B&W DM 602 (x4) side and rear surround speakers, Polk Audio PSW1000 (x2) subwoofers (driven passively), Triad PowerSub Bronze Amplifiers (x2), Infinity SSW-212 subwoofer, Marantz SR7001 THX receiver, Marantz DV7001 DVD/SACD player, Marantz VP4001 DLP projector, Elite Screens 100" screen Not Currently In Use: Klipsch Forte II speakers, Carver CT-7 preamp/tuner, Carver TL-3220 CD player, Adcom GFA-555 power amp, Adcom GFA-545II power amp, NAD PP-2 phono preamp (clint e. mod'd from ST 2008 New Year's giveaway) |
| Elroy |
Posted: October 16, 2008 07:42 am
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the nad cd player I had "cant remember what model" was extremely neutral in sound, almost flat, and very unremarkable.
And the pre-amp that dingus let me use for a while had the same characteristics. I didnt care for it at all. elroy -------------------- I got nothing
Yamaha CX-2000 Yamaha MX-2000 Zhaolu 3.0 DAC Modded Vandersteen 2c Denon DP62L Marantz 67 SE CD Player Teac W990rx |
| socal sam |
Posted: October 16, 2008 06:03 pm
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True, NAD quality seems hit and miss. For example, the 3150 integrated has dual transformers while the later 3155 has a single tranny that is seems undersized. The 3150 feels heavier. |
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| speakerman1 |
Posted: October 17, 2008 05:12 am
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Never owned NAD but had a Proton amp that sounded great.
-------------------- Creek 5350SE amp
Creek Classic Tuner Shanling T-1000 CDP Bellari Phono Amp MMF-2.2 le TT Akai GX-265D r2r Epos 12.2 speakers Epos M-16s Onkyo Cassette deck Nakamichi LX3 Cassette deck |
| Ginovino |
Posted: November 11, 2008 01:07 am
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NAD, was a communal effort of several heavy duty dealers throughout the U.S. back in the early 80's. N= North, A=American, D= Dealers. They pooled $$$ resources and created a marketing arm which they alone sold, the early products were well beyond competitive and in fact surpassed much to the breed of the period. Among their ideas was to include a soft clipping circuit, much like McIntosh.... On a scale of 1-10 , much of their gear was 8+.... Great Receivers, and Preamps. the rest well.... hit & miss The nationwide commune is no longer..... Stay away from these units as parts are worst than scarce. -------------------- "I USE TO LISTEN TO THE NUMBERS, NOW, I LISTEN TO THE MUSIC "
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| socal sam |
Posted: November 11, 2008 01:53 am
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NAD translates to a lot of things but I have never heard of "North American Dealers." I know NAD to mean "New Acoustic Dimension." Techs who (frequently) work on them call then "Not Another Defect."
Agreed, very hit and miss. Some of the parts are very cheap like the trimposts for DC and Bias. Parts are not too scarce but if you have to buy from the NAD parts dept., it can be expensive. |
| Grant Fidelity |
Posted: November 11, 2008 04:53 am
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Sold my NAD 3070 (same as the 3020 with a tuner) last year, it was one of those rare special things that they never seemed to capture again, not that they didn't build more great amps, but it was a no brainer against the competition.
Ian -------------------- Ian Grant / Grant Fidelity
Meet Grant Fidelity at: RMAF 2009 - Room 9000 CES 2010 Venetian Tower 29328 www.grantfidelity.com |
| xxxrv |
Posted: November 11, 2008 06:33 am
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I have a nad 521 BEE CD player and I used to have to C372 amp. The BEE is a great player, but it was easily surpassed by the Rega Apollo. It's almost unlistenable to now. It sounds muddy compared to the Apollo. Originally, I didn't think the Apollo so great, but A/B tests confirmed it.
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| Elroy |
Posted: November 11, 2008 07:16 am
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the NAD acronym that comes to my mind is ball, nut, teste, and if you had more than one component, it is plural, ow, got hit in the nads.
elroy -------------------- I got nothing
Yamaha CX-2000 Yamaha MX-2000 Zhaolu 3.0 DAC Modded Vandersteen 2c Denon DP62L Marantz 67 SE CD Player Teac W990rx |
| clint e. |
Posted: November 11, 2008 07:38 am
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Imo, it's not fair try to compare those units. The Apollo costs almost the double the Nad C521bee............... -------------------- ![]() " Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be measured " Albert Einstein![]() |
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| xxxrv |
Posted: November 11, 2008 06:38 pm
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.....but you would have to spend 10x the NAD to get a 10% gain in sonics (or so they claimed). Don't get me wrong, it held up reliably for 4 or 5 years so far and is great for an overly revealing/bright system. The Apollo is just another graet budget-minded item.
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| clint e. |
Posted: November 13, 2008 07:00 am
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![]() D161t@L 0N L1N3 / Analog at heart Group: Moderator Posts: 6089 Member No.: 40 Joined: July 13, 2006 |
I believe the Apollo is a great cdp, but imo you don't have to spend twice the price to have - as you said - 10% plus in sonics. You just have to buy - Nad's same price - the Cambridge Audio Azur 540C.
I'd listen to it in the last Lisbon Audio Show and i was thrilled by it. Features include the latest generation WM8716 24-bit/192kHz Wolfson DAC and Sony laser optics. -------------------- ![]() " Not everything that can be counted counts, and not everything that counts can be measured " Albert Einstein![]() |
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